Wednesday, August 15, 2012

Daz Loader for Windows 8

So it looks like the regular retail versions of Windows 8 install are not going to have the option to install without a product key up front.
The big change in Windows 8 installation over Windows 7 and Vista

Those that are looking for a Loader or RemoveWAT for Windows 8 may be out of luck. The evaluation copies of Windows that Microsoft allowed you to download will expire once Windows 8 Pro is on general sale - after 26 October 2012. This blog post does not refer to those evaluation copies of Windows 8.

What Ed Bott says about the Product Key and Windows 8

The way that the Windows 7 (and versions prior to this including Vista) loaders worked was that a program that updated the SLIC table on the computers BIOS was run and inserted a Product Key (or Serial) from an OEM version of Windows. With Windows 8 the activation will be automatic on the install and therefore you will not have an "evaluation" version of Windows to run the "loader" against.

Will this mean that those that have been using bootleg versions of Windows 7 are now going to have to pay for Windows 8? Or maybe they will all stick with Windows 7 for as long as they can.

Other pages related to Windows 8 and activation:
 The activation process for Windows 8 has been completely redesigned from the way that Windows 7 and Vista were handled. OA 3.0 is the new method that is being proposed.

The roll-out of Windows RT, the tablet version of Windows 8 that runs on an ARM powered device has prompted discussion about this new activation scheme. By the time that the x86, Windows 8 Pro, comes on line MS will have probably worked out more of the details. At the present time there is probably little that the consumer be worried about as they are not going to able to run Windows 8 RT on their hardware as Windows 8 Pro is not going to be available until the end of the year (2012). The release of Windows 8 RTM was announced approximately 15 August 2012.

It is doubtful that the Windows 8 Loaders that you see for download will work with the beta versions of Windows 8 Pro that have also, presumably, been made available for download. These bootleg versions of Windows 8 are likely to be as bogus as the Windows8 Loaders. Be very careful in what you download!

22 comments:

Leon de Los Aldama said...

windows 8 loader daz

I was wondering if I could use the Daz Windows Loader for Windows 8.

Does anyone know if there is an update in the works?

Anonymous said...

So what are you saying?

Should I ignore all the posts that I see on You Tube and file sharing services such as filestube as a nonsense?

The Technology Muse said...

That is exactly what I am saying!

If you download anything from these file-sharing clowns you are likely to get something else that what you are looking for.

Anonymous said...

I heard that Daz and his team are working on a version of the loader that will work with O.A. 3.0

http://forums.mydigitallife.info/threads/28500-Would-Daz-s-loader-work

John said...

Actually, Ed does say that the Windows 8 RTM is the Windows 8 Pro version.

Apart from that you make a good point that as far as the real consumer is concerned it will be a moot point as the release of the Pro version is still well into the future.

I am sure that there are those that will try and download versions of the RTM image, these are the ones that will be looking for a clandestine way of activating them. I think that this is a masterstroke by Microsoft in stopping the piracy of what they have spent a lot of time developing.

I personally have no problem in purchasing legit copies of Windows. I only re-use versions of Windows 7 because I can and have had no problems in using the Daz loader on ANY hardware that I have tried it.

Anonymous said...

www.loaderforwindows8.com

Anonymous said...

I've heard the Ariel Enterprises have a solution to allow the installation of Windows 8 license free on as many pcs as you wish

Anonymous said...

This SW_DVD5_SA_Win_Ent_8_64BIT_English_Full_MLF_X18-16254.ISO from the microsoft partner website & so i'm guessing from the msdn website as well, can be installed without entering a product key, as far as i can see, i can use it as long as i want, the only downside is that from the metro interface, some functions are disabled... The system itself has been installed with a temporary key which can't be used to activate the system & which differ from the one in my partner account... There's no mention of something like "can be used only for 30 days"...

Anonymous said...

I forgot to mention that it's because it's a VL version...

The Technology Muse said...

Thanks,

I am sure that there are lots of visitors who will find this version useful in their evaluation of whether they want to "upgrade" to Windows 8.

I will make a page on my website on the Volume License (VL) and how it applies to MSDN partner accounts.

By the look of the traffic interested in this post I think that a MSDN subscription would be "counter" to the desires of those that are looking for a free way of installing Windows 8. A MSDN subscription is $699US.

Anonymous said...

They clearly said NO in this article but obviously you didn't read it, did you?

Anonymous said...

The language in which this article is written implies that a Windows 8 activation will never happen. All I could think about when reading it was the discussion back in the day about how Windows XP was "uncrackable". If we use history as a way to manage our expectations, its pretty likely that a workaround to this issue will emerge, and probably in good time as well.

The Technology Muse said...

I am sure that there will be ways that Windows 8 will be "hacked".

The "article" was written from the perspective that the activation method introduced by Microsoft for Windows 8 is radically different from previous versions. As Windows 8 has not even been released to the general public there is no surprise that a method to make "pirate" copies has not been developed.

If the visits to this blog are anything to go by, there is plenty of interest in this area. Quite frankly, the author of the post is not really interested in finding a way of making illegal copies of Windows 8. It is, however, really interesting that there are so many that want to get something for free. If Windows 8 is a great as MS make out, then the users will be more than happy to pay for it.

As far as "in good time" is concerned, I am not sure what you mean? There is never a "good time" for a way to steal something. If it happens, then oh! well, but the fact that you have to pay for something is not the issue. Don't give me the argument that MS are a "money-grabbing monopoly" - you can always go out an by an Apple or failing that Linux is a good option (IMO)

Anonymous said...

It should be possible, I lost my HDD so I reinstalled Win 8 but I can't use it anymore because Windows Updates are not working There was an update to extend the expiration date but windows Update is not working for months, that's why I'm looking for some kind of removeWAT now.

Anonymous said...

Not sure why Anonymous would have problems with reinstalling any pre-release version of Win 8. All of them are supposed to work until Jan 15, 2013. I have run all of them at various times and Windows Update always worked just fine.

I have been testing a leaked version of Windows 8 RTM (Release To Manufacturers) and there does appear to be an activator that works with it. I just ran winver and it didn't say it wasn't activated and did not show an expiration date. You can find the activator by googling "Microsoft Windows 8 Activator (All Edition). The RTM version is available on the usual torrent sites.

Alan Mason said...

"Don't give me the argument that MS are a "money-grabbing monopoly" - you can always go out an by an Apple..."

Pricing any Apple product seems like the best way to figure out what a "money-grabbing monopoly" Microsoft ISN'T. Bill Gates is giving most of his personal wealth away to charitable causes, while Apple sits on $100 billion or so in cash. So much for Jobs' "hippie" ethic...

The Technology Muse said...

So am I.......

A "Jobs hippie" sitting on a fortune! That is.

I don't think that either Apple or Microsoft are a "money grabbing monopoly" - they are just in business to make money.

There is nothing wrong with this.

I am not a business owner in San Diego and I have not attended Michigan Institute of Real Estate.

Jonathan said...

I know you said that it doesn't activate, but I had a copy that didn't even ask me for the product key. In fact, it wouldn't even activate without me running a specific command. I didn't use a loader on it since I had a key. I know that the Daz loader I've used for vista and 7 doesn't work, but with what happened, I don't see how one couldn't be made. I also don't condone software piracy, my coworkers and I simply use the loader for re-branding computers after reloading them (in the field of computer repairs).

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